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Re: VD Check Up-Dustin Amatori
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2010, 08:32:03 AM »
uhm I couldn't hear any speaking? all I heard was music

voice track is a mono track coming from the left side. make sure both of your channels are working.

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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2010, 12:21:57 PM »
You gotta get that mic situation figured out man!!!

Did you contact sony yet about the fraudulent mic? They should be able to just send you a replacement or something.

Looking good btw, definitely liked how you took the time to move the camera around, a lot of people don't even bother with that. Good stuff man!

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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2010, 02:22:54 PM »
that makes sense my left speaker is out

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2010, 09:44:55 AM »
You gotta get that mic situation figured out man!!!

Did you contact sony yet about the fraudulent mic? They should be able to just send you a replacement or something.

Looking good btw, definitely liked how you took the time to move the camera around, a lot of people don't even bother with that. Good stuff man!

I figured it out. It has to be on port 2 with 48hz power to it. I shot this with my shotgun... I could have made two tracks to get stereo but I honestly didn't know it was mono until I listened to it with the schools head phones and found it was only coming out the left side. We haven't learned enough about audio tracks for me to notice that. My Apple monitor has the speakers inside it and it came out even enough for me not to notice. Plus the clip in FCP came in with two audio tracks so i assumed it was good(i didn't check the audio wave forms to see).  I'm guessing everything shoots mono through shotgun and you have to mix it to stereo or i missed a button on my camera. I'm learning everyday.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2010, 02:30:14 PM »
Oh word? Well that's dope you figured out how to get it to work!

I'm pretty sure your shotgun records stereo, most do at least. But I could be wrong. Best way to check is just watch your audio levels and look for both channels to be working. Try dropping one channel completely down, and check to see if the other is working, then do the same to the other channel. These kinds of things happen all the time though, as I'm sure you've already figured out hahahaha. That's what we get for working with electronics... Also even with mono tracks, FCP will bring in two audio tracks no matter what, kind of weird, and an annoyance, especially in a situation like what you had.

Also, if you haven't already, you should invest in some good headphones. They make such a difference when shooting, and you can catch audio problems immediately (peaking, interference, low levels, etc...) You'll hear John Marsh say "Great audio can make terrible footage look amazing" at some point in school.

But keep it up man, you're picking things up really quickly
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Re: VD Check Up-Dustin Amatori
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2010, 03:55:58 PM »
same thing happened to me the first three or four times I played it, then it just started playing together. Try refreshing several times.

weird issue.

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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2010, 07:13:25 PM »
thanks josh. I've been really taking an interest into Phillip Bloom. He is for right now the only DP that I know of that has never touched film; ever, and has been really successful. I'm really starting to get into more DP work. Which is what you and I do really.... but I'm REALLY starting to take a hard interest in learning "everything" excluding film b/c its a dying art. I'm finally spending more time on DP, camera, and movie sites then car sites which I'm really thankful for.

      I've been trying to get away from cars for a long time and its finally refreshing to have something thats replacing the void, with the same excitement that i originally had with cars.
   

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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2010, 05:29:42 PM »
this is good stuff  :)
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2010, 02:15:03 AM »
thanks josh. I've been really taking an interest into Phillip Bloom. He is for right now the only DP that I know of that has never touched film; ever, and has been really successful. I'm really starting to get into more DP work. Which is what you and I do really.... but I'm REALLY starting to take a hard interest in learning "everything" excluding film b/c its a dying art. I'm finally spending more time on DP, camera, and movie sites then car sites which I'm really thankful for.

      I've been trying to get away from cars for a long time and its finally refreshing to have something thats replacing the void, with the same excitement that i originally had with cars.
  

YES, great call dude. Phillip Bloom is awesome. I think he's a good DP for sure, but where he shines is mostly in his color grading. The guy is phenomenal.

I actually really really really want to shoot film. I'm looking for places that I can find an old Bolex 16mm, and I have an old super 8mm camera that I've had forever. Just never took the time to buy any film, or look into getting it processed. If anything I may just get some color reversal film so I don't have to worry about developing it. Just find someone to do telecine, or just see about setting it up myself with a white cloth and projector, then pointing my camera at it and recording. Definitely want to get some 8mm stuff this fd season. I personally love the look of old film, but you're right, it's a dying art which is super sad to see.
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2010, 10:08:44 AM »
For me right now. I have so much to learn and throwing film on top of that would through me way off. I just switched cameras to the 7D. I'm really looking forward to the film "like" images I can achieve. I'm posting my camera up for sale today to recoup the moneys spent and have a little left over for a L prime lens or two. well say, I do feel you with the film though. I learned photographer using film. Not knowing what I exactly what I got until i developed it and did the darkroom work which was always very rewarding.     

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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 09:26:23 AM »
I just switched cameras to the 7D. I'm really looking forward to the film "like" images I can achieve.

wait....does this make any sense to do while attending film school? Like, can't your sony do a shit ton more than the 7d?  or are you going for just "film like" IMAGES from now on? 
If not, did you order your mic, and other gear to make it at least equivalent to what you had?
the film like image you speak of is all in your post processing, color grading, etc.
I understand having a nice "L" lens, but are you doing strictly video or just photos? I would assume shooting a video with a prime would be even more of a challenge w/out some kind of steadycam rig. I'm just saying it would suck if you start relying your video quality on your gear. Granted i've seen awesome work with the 7D, but it just seems weird to switch at such a early stage of videography as a whole.

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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2010, 10:04:26 AM »
I just switched cameras to the 7D. I'm really looking forward to the film "like" images I can achieve.

wait....does this make any sense to do while attending film school? Like, can't your sony do a shit ton more than the 7d?  or are you going for just "film like" IMAGES from now on? 
If not, did you order your mic, and other gear to make it at least equivalent to what you had?
the film like image you speak of is all in your post processing, color grading, etc.
I understand having a nice "L" lens, but are you doing strictly video or just photos? I would assume shooting a video with a prime would be even more of a challenge w/out some kind of steadycam rig. I'm just saying it would suck if you start relying your video quality on your gear. Granted i've seen awesome work with the 7D, but it just seems weird to switch at such a early stage of videography as a whole.

My sony is a great piece of equipment but its more of a utilitarian piece. It's a can do almost anything "ok" while the 7D as a great fixability to do everything GREAT but it takes more skill to operate it to its best. For me it came down to selective focus(DOF), 60P, image sharpness and medium...
First medium, The Sony records to tape. there are no HDV tape decks the import HDV 108024P yet they only do 60i. So in order to import 24p i have to use my camera which will half the life of my heads. The 7D reocrod to flash so its just a quick a transfer away from being on my mac. This will mean a lot when when in on the job and the director wants to see a full sized clip right away. If i don't have a monitor by then.
 
Next sharpness the sony is good but you should see the difference side by side. the big image chip of the 7d gets tons more. But its a double edged sword b/c it takes a lot more effort to get critical focus with the 7D.

Next 60p... shooting 60p mean i can convert down to 24p in post BAM slo mo. the Sony I have to switch to 60i and over crank in camera. Which doesn't give my the option of playing the clip and regular speed with sound if I wanted to. Plus its shooting 60i which is not the best image. Now the 7d shoots 60p with sound so I can slow it down with or with out sound.

Selective focus.. I could have achieved this by going with a 35mm adapter but by the time you get the rail system, this and that fitting, plus the lens you've pent enough to get a 7D so its a no brainer...

I can see what you saying about  switching it up so early but honestly the 7D will teach me to think more then the sony ever would have b/c its a set up and shoot while the 7D can get more style which will make me think of how to get a lot of different takes of the same shot if that makes sense.

sorry i wrote a book. I just wanted to convey I didn't switch on a whim I did my homework. I'm also not saying the 7D is the best thing ever it has its flaws but its at a great price point for me. And about audio I'm getting a external recorder.