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« Reply #60 on: December 07, 2009, 02:28:02 AM » |
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Thanks. I'm trying to pick up some 550 injectors and a SAFC II to put down a little more power after we get it running properly.
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« Reply #61 on: December 08, 2009, 12:25:40 AM » |
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if you ever wanna get rid of the turbo kit lemme know i might be interested
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« Reply #62 on: December 08, 2009, 03:00:07 AM » |
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FYI: I am 99% you cannot tune that ecu with an SAFC because Toyota's ecu's are programmed very differently than most all other manufactures. Although that ecu is older than all the ones I have knowledge of.
The tune will hold at first but will be probably be way off after 4-8 hours of run time.
Toyota doesn't really use a fuel map as I recall they use a couple of equations with some built in constants. So if you make a small change with the SAFC, the toyota ecu will tune your change out within 30min-4 hours usually. This is why tuned Toyotas run full standalones.
Let me know how it goes I am very curious if that is like the 7mgte, and 2jz ecus.
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« Reply #63 on: December 08, 2009, 11:19:58 AM » |
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Car is running but super lean  I'm on FiYA!!!! |
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Brinkin
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« Reply #64 on: December 08, 2009, 10:43:32 PM » |
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FYI: I am 99% you cannot tune that ecu with an SAFC because Toyota's ecu's are programmed very differently than most all other manufactures. Although that ecu is older than all the ones I have knowledge of.
The tune will hold at first but will be probably be way off after 4-8 hours of run time.
Toyota doesn't really use a fuel map as I recall they use a couple of equations with some built in constants. So if you make a small change with the SAFC, the toyota ecu will tune your change out within 30min-4 hours usually. This is why tuned Toyotas run full standalones.
Let me know how it goes I am very curious if that is like the 7mgte, and 2jz ecus.
The ecu I have is from the mid to late 90s... 1j/2j guys run Safcs all the time with little to no problems (if tuned correctly). Google it.   |
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« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2009, 10:47:26 PM » |
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The afc is actually fairly decent on a 1jz... You can control some of the timing at the knock sensor. It's much safer then running on many other motors at least. I know plenty of guys making 500+ with afc's comfortably. Probably the best option aside from a standalone for this setup.
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Brinkin
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« Reply #66 on: December 08, 2009, 11:01:45 PM » |
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Yeah, quite f few of the JZX guys are making good power on them. It's only going to be temporary, until I get some funds for a Power FC.
ANYWAYS... The car is running, not very well, but it can drive around. We hooked up the wideband, after 1/4 throttle it goes lean and cuts out. We're putting an o2 sensor on changing out the alternator, and getting new plugs. Hopefully it will be fine after that.
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« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2009, 11:05:28 PM » |
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Wow, nice glowing manifold, where can I get one of those? lol
FWIW, I tuned my Supra ~400hp on stock injectors with an SAFC1 no problem. The trick is to keep off of the low throttle map and make the low-hi switch point around 75% throttle. Tune only the hi map and you will be fine. When in closed loop, the ECU will try and get back to what it thinks is stock. Problem is that it changes the whole map and your high load portions will be fubar'ed. As far as knock goes, the Toyota's pull just enough timing to rid detonation. Not like Nissan switching to a separate map and increased fuel.
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« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2009, 11:18:46 PM » |
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FYI: I am 99% you cannot tune that ecu with an SAFC because Toyota's ecu's are programmed very differently than most all other manufactures. Although that ecu is older than all the ones I have knowledge of.
The tune will hold at first but will be probably be way off after 4-8 hours of run time.
Toyota doesn't really use a fuel map as I recall they use a couple of equations with some built in constants. So if you make a small change with the SAFC, the toyota ecu will tune your change out within 30min-4 hours usually. This is why tuned Toyotas run full standalones.
Let me know how it goes I am very curious if that is like the 7mgte, and 2jz ecus.
The ecu I have is from the mid to late 90s... 1j/2j guys run Safcs all the time with little to no problems (if tuned correctly). Google it. I'm just trying to help by sharing what I have learned... I trust the engineer I knew at Toyota much more than Google. I vote for the PFC or some other standalone. If you are going for low power I think you will be fine no matter what. |
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Brinkin
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« Reply #69 on: December 08, 2009, 11:25:50 PM » |
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Yeah, PFC is definitely in the plans. If I can sell my dmax hood I might have one this week  |
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« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2009, 11:58:57 PM » |
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dame cool |
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« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2009, 04:14:13 PM » |
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You do realize that the pfc for this motor has been disco'd for a long time now. Finding used ones on EBAY is about all you can hope for now-
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Brinkin
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« Reply #72 on: December 09, 2009, 05:32:50 PM » |
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I has a few lines on them. I can still get one new through a guy in the NW that had a batch commissioned, but they are $1500  |
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« Reply #73 on: December 14, 2009, 05:50:25 PM » |
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sick build !!! haha i like how u painted ur bay lol cause i did the same shit to just sprayed everything black but the boxes and the coilovers
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